madMax ploter

Ares

No prisel jsem na to ze parametr -c a -p jsou asi identicke.. ikdyz nevim 100% kazdopadne oba najednou byt nemuzou... tak asi zustanu u toho C. jinak by me zajimalo, kdyz by clovek vytvoril pro tento pool X plotu a chtel zmenit pool tak jdou ty ploty pouzit jinde?
Ohledne te RAM by me to docela zajimaloco musi clovek udelat a napsat do konfigu aby to proste delal v ramce a az vyslednej plot presal na HDD nebo SSD.
JInak se potykam s problemem ze kdyz komp dela ploty Aspon tedy v GUI Chii, tak absolutne nefarmi, nic 0 a to me stve dost pac mam hromadu solo plotu ale nemam jinou poradnou masinu ktera by plotovala ono nemma ani jinou na storage.. mam proste jednu cool, jsem zvedavej jestli plotting s mad Maxem to nejak ovlivni... jako vykon PC na to ma zvladnout vse, takze to proste nachapu proc ta Gui Chii to nedava.. trapny

eSTe

Ares Ploty su uz potom prenositelne medzi poolmi.
Ramdisk musis najprv vytvorit, napr ako dalsiu jednotku v systeme alebo to namapujes do nejakeho adresata.
Je kopec software na to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RAM_drive_software
Tak ze potom ten disk/adresar vyberis rovnako ale keby si to robil na ssd alebo disk.
Neviem co mas za stroj ale pisal si ze ma 416GB, tak ze musis mat najeky server. Do bezneho PC tolko RAM nedas.
MadMax dokaze PC vytazit na 100%. Pokial mas slabsi PC a chces na nom aj farmit tak mne sa osvecilo skorej pouzit povodny plotter na chiu.

Ares

ni muj stroj je workstation board s Threadriprem 16core pameti tam jdou nacpat 2 tera ale na to fakt nemam 8*256Gb a ani nejsou poradne na trhu.., ale to je jedno no jinak tam mam raidovej radic s16ti disky v 5ti raidech a k tomu 3nvme z toho 2 jsou v raidu taky vetsinu mam zplacnute plotama ale ty OG, ale jak rikam stve me to ze gui kdyz plotuje tak nefarmi... to musim poresit.. ikdyz zachvilku stejne asi dojde misto uz je 100T a je konec pak uz budu jn farmit
ale i tak skoda nefarmit kdyz plotuju... no musim to nejak vymyslet

dodop

není nějaké rychlé plotovátko jako je madmax, které by umělo vytvořit K33 plot ?

Ares

Hele je.. madMax🙂 zmen si v konfiguje -k 32 na 33 a jedes🙂
Jinak jsem ted rozjel konecne maxe a chia Gui mi konecne farmi i pri plotovani, je to fakt tou apkou zepri plotovani proste je farmeni stople... takze odedneska konecne i farmim😉 skoda ze tech 1380 plotu co mam jsou OG.. ale nevadi pojedu neco solo a neco pool.

dodop

Ares
no to jsem už zkoušel a hází to chybu. proto jsem vznesl dotaz jeslti není něco jinýho

meter21

Ares
Podla komentarov na githube zatial madmaxom k-33 niesu podporovane. A ani nebudu pokial siet nezačne k-33 vyžadovať ako minimum. To že si ty zmeniš 32 na 33 na to nema žiaden vplyv

Ares

A mas na to dost HW pozadavku?

dodop

Ares AMD Ryzen 5 3600 / 12 vláken, 16GB RAM, SSD M2 1GB

Ares

Ano je to i v readme parametr pro K v maxu je mensi nebo rovno 32
-k, --size arg K size (default = 32, k <= 32) taky jsem zkusil 33 a nic to nedela.
Ale k otazce jestli vim o necem co dela.. tak krome GUI Chia ja osobne nevim o nicem... ja jsem rad ze jsem rozchodil ted tu K32 a delam ji za cca 28min a jsem happy..
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dodop

dyt jsem to psal že to v madmaxu nejde 🙂

dodop

dodop jaké parametry používáš v nastavení madmaxe?

Ares

dodop
Uplnej zaklad jevi se mi to jako nej... -n -1 -r 32 -u 256 -t R:\ -d G:\
ty?

dodop

Ares chia_plot.exe -t e:\ -d m:\ -f -c -n 1 -r 12 -K 1 -u 256 -v 256

Ares

Tak jsem ted udelal trosku jinak s RAMdiskem zvetsil jsem ho na 288GB a odstranil jsem argument -w
Takze to kopiruje pri plottingu. a vypada to takto... mozna bych ani nemusel navysovat ten ramdisk, ale pro plynulost a moznosti pracovat na raidovem disku kde v tomto logu je rychlost zapisu snizena o 60% tak to i tak stacilo s tim prepisem cca za 2.5min 😉 takze se ted dostavam na nejakych teoretickych 55 Plotu za den.

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dodop

taky bych bral desku do PC která může mít tolik ram abych měl ram disk 😁

Ares

tak staci poridit, dostupne jsou... problem trosku je ta cena...jak te dasy tak havne toho procesoru a nasledne i tech pameti....v celku to bude tak za 100k🙁

dodop

Ares tak to se ale nebavíme o běžném pc ale o serveru.
asi jsi dost v pohodě když můžeš zainvestovat tolik 🙂

Ares

Hele je to desktopova zakladni deska, narozdil od servrovych ma chipset🙂
je to neco mezi vsak posud sam Asus WRX80E-sage wifi.
jee to jedna z mala desek a k ni i procak.... kterej je schopnej operoovat se 128 PCIe linkami. a o to mi slo nejvic, jeho predchudce CPU Threadripper do doketu TRX4 je lepsi ale umi jen 88linek a jen 256GB ram. Zatim co do tehle desky ten procak zvladne adresovat 2TB ram coz by bylo fajn ale opravdu na to nemam... jako 8 modulu po 256GB sice by se asu dali sehnat ale videl jsem neco cenu okolo 5-6K Uds za modul takze jako to si uz asi dopocitas sam ze to je strasna raketa... a i tak sezenes jen ECC LR DIMM moduly a to taky neni nim moc s tou latenci, popravde bida.. kduz jsem zkousel 4 doky stare sunky 4x8GB 2400MHz tak ramky byly vykonejsi nez soucasne ECC na 3200MHz... jako na ty ocekavani co jsem mel jsem velmi zklamany... v pomeru cena vykon.... ale jako je to zase takovej tank, takovej 70tunovej vyprostovak, kterych je asi 5 v republice😉
nevyhody desky:
je o tosku vetsi cca (320330) ale do desktopu ji das, do vetsiho asi urcite, ale to me netrapi.
cpu nepretaktujes ani o Hz... to je velke minus... ale v ramci stability asi plus.. lehce si muzes pohrat s voltazi, ale co stim, kdyz to nepretaktujes..
ty ecc pameti no to je boj... ale ciste toreticky by tam slo dat normalni nadupane herni klasiky, podporuje to fakt kde co, a taktovani pameti, tak tam si clovek muze opravdu pohrat... ale 2TB tam nedas mozna 864>512GB ale jako to by byl kurva fofr dat tam neco na 4300 a pri CL 18 by mi schorel asi i ten vodni chladic😉 A taky nutno v zit v potaz ze takove naslaple G skillky nebo neco podobneho... budou tak3x drazsii nez ECC co mam ja🙂 a co je u me problem tak to je procak, z financniho hlediska jsem vzal to nejlevnejsi logicky a tu jsou 4 varianty 12c 16c 32c a 64core, 12ku jsem jeste nevidel 16ku jsem sehnal na czc kdyz vysla nejak jako hit par tydnu po te a ted stoji o 50% vic 32core je mrda ale stoji 2x tolik a 64core... za to si uz koupis slusny auto... a jako ROI u tehle veci... ikdyz to bude kopat co muze tak jsme na jejaky 5ti-10ti letky, takze asi tak 64ka ma low frekvence ale 32ka by sla....ale je to moc drahy... kazdopadne dle mych pozorovani... kdyz bych udelal tak velkej ramdisk ze bych mohl plotovat 2 najednou...je muj procak uz prakticky k hovnu... uz neda ten datovej tok.... a jak rikam i ty pameti... proste bida...musel bych mit 640GB ram a 32corovej procak abych to vydoubloval na 255plotu/den a to za to fakt nestoji... ne ted ne pri tehle cenach... az bude potreba K33 tak pak se to vyplati.. pugrade na 64core a 1280Gb RAM to uz to snad bude starej srot za pusinku a pofrci to hadam tech 55 K33 taky za den.
jinak t adeska strasne pomalu stratuje.... skoro si myslis ze je rozbyta...to jsou minuty.. a po resetu si i kafe udelas, jako trago... ale ma to podporu nvidie a NVlink SLI, takze se na tyhle desce da delat vsecko, jako fakt muzes parit Diablo 3, na pozadi delat ploty... farmit, na secundarnich kartach muzes tezit ETH mit v Chromu 100 Oken a koukat u toho na film a bokem radio... a vsecko proste bezi... jako normalni komp uz by se asi davno sesypal... je to tank... ale pomalej ale kdyz se rozjede tak jede, a velmi rychle...
Ted na to plotovani by se mi hodil poradnej procak... bych to ted ukrmil tech 128 threadu, jako prd.. ale co za mesic ..... chia si nevydela ani na disky tak co stim....ja vim ze jsme v zacatcich... ale takovehle investice... no nevim...
Koukej deska pameti sojej to same co 2 RTX 3090ky a co udela vic muziky? pri soucasnym kurzu..? ROI desky CPURAM cca 10let s chiou a 23090... to je jiny kafe pri dnesnim kurzu ETH 344 dni a bude lip to se zkrati na pulku v unoru bude ETH za 6000Euro jestli bude ta dificulty bomba a ETH se stane prakticky netezitelny na GPU... pak to pofrci jako blazen...nahoru... neresim tu nejake mavani BTC atd... ale globalne to proste pude na horu a pravdepodobne za 5let bude ETH za milion Kc tak jako BTC pred par mesici... ale kde bude chia... ti fakt nepovim... ja to beru jenom jako hracku, zatim co na to ostatni sazim🙂 A je dost mozny ze za 5 let bude i BTC uplne nekde jinde.. treba 1.000.000USD ne Kc🙂)
kdo si rika jestli je pozde naskocit na vlak krypto... tak neni... jsme porad porad na zacatku a ja se ani poloviny ery BTC nedoziju🙂 a to predpokladam ze tu jeste 20 let budu🙂 Zatim neni pozde... a vyplati se i investovat z ciziho kapitalu... nekdo si bere hypotehu na byt na barak...pujcky na kde co... ja doporucuji pujcku na HW... a je uplne jedno kdo jaky pujcky muze dosahnout jestli to je 50K 500K nebo 2 miliony nebo 100 co ja vim... rozhodne ROI je ted super ... HW ti vydela na splatky a za rok mas HW a splacenej dluh a porad mas ten HW kterej minimalne jeste jeden rok pofrci... takze kdyz si to spocitas... dokonaly... pomalinku i z prdu se da udelat kulicka pokud clovek neni blbej a zadluzenej tak ze uz mu nikdo nepujci... ale tu vizi vidin v ETH a nevim ja to bude po vanocich.... no porad tu jsou jine nak EGR a jine , konec tezby GPU jeste nezkoncil a jen tak nezkonci... Ale muze to posunout RIO a to by nekdo nemusel ustat a kazdej by si mel udelat vlastni plan, ale da se hodne vymyslet...
Ale tou chiou nevim.... no je to vzarodku... kdyz to dude cool, tak jasny zbohatnem na tom za cas vsichni co to budou drzet, ale kdyz ne..... no budeme mit hromadu disku a aspon bude kam stahovat filmy v UHD a nebo 8K🙂🙂
Ale pak je treba mit jiny prijem pokud je Chia jen nejakej srac co vymysleli prodejci pametovych medii...aby se dal prodavalo.... a pokud lidi nebudou potrebovat vic... tak se prodavat nebude, to mi ver... jeste pred par mesici jsem mel jsem se vsim vsudy mozna a to opravdu mozna 8TB ve vsech moznejch a nemoznejch diskach co jsem mel a ve vsech kompech vcetne telefonu a stacilo mi to, a asi bych prikoupil 6TB na ty filmy a to by mi stacilo na dalsich 5let.... takze ta potreba fakt neni...tolik dat na to co toho ty fabriky chrlej... nekde to praskne... podle me tohle je jen takova piramida... ale podle me no nevim kde jsme, v kazde poramide ti na zacatku jsou v poho... ale kde jsme dneska nevim...
No evidentne mi ujely myslemky, alke pokud to nekdo precte a prekouse vsecky moje preklepy... rad si prectu nazory jinych... 🙂

eSTe

Ono kupit server s vela RAM nieje az take drahe.
Napr. HP Proliant dl380 gen8 kupis od 300eur. RAM DDR3 ECC 16GB modul kupis od 20eur. Vies tam dat 24x16GB=384GB = 480Eur. V servery mas rovno napr 2x8Core Xeon. Tak ze celkovo ta to vide do 800Eur, vasich 20k CZK. S DDR4 to vychadza 3x drahsie.
Ale v reali na MadMax staci mat hlavne tych 110GB Ramdisk na temp2. Temp1 staci SSD alebo HDD v raid. Uz je tam minimalny rozdiel ak by si to znovu robil na Ramdisk.

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tak jasne, ja nerikam ze se nedaji sehnat pekne masinky na plotovani za par kacek... ale v mem pripade to neni nic co bych chtel, pro me je to hracka, takovej poradnej workstation, kde si muzu delat co chci, a nebude mi klast HW mezery, ikdyz i tak klade.. pac jsem myslel ze by tam slo dat 26 NVME a ono by to asi alo, ale nei to podporovane uplne tak jak by bylo treba...stejne ty nvme jsou k prdu... je to fajn.. ale zbytecnost... jsem zkousel i raid mam v to raidovej radic, a i v GIU jsem delal 30 plotu pralelne 1 ram disku 13 na nvme 8 v raid0 8disku, 4 v raidu 4 disku, 2 v raidu 2sas disku a dalsi 2 v v dalsim raidu 2sas disku, a prakticky si nic nepomuzes... kdyz mas jen 16 jader🙂 kdyz to spocitam na casy tak vychazi ramdisk sam o sobe s maximalni podoporou 32 threads nejlepe, diky maxikovy, pac tech 30 plotu starym zpusobem trvalo asi 18 hodin a kdyz vezmes v uvahu to opotrebeni, tak to je katastrofa... nevratna investice...ale jak rikam porad to je pro me proste hracka, neberu to jako vydelecny a pokud to prijde.. ok bude to mile... ale tot vse🙂 a proste si rad kouknu ka peknej film ve 4K a nebo zaparim chvilku diablo na 4K a to je na servru takove kostrbate..... ja mam rad univerzalni veci... a tato sestava mi to umoznuje.. jsem spokojen... je to vsecko vodou chlazene... coz na server taky spatne budes schanet... a na to co to poskytuje za vykon, tak je to supr tiche.... ty HDD jsou nejhlucnejsi btw🙂
ta spotreba je trosku problem pac ta sestava je okolo 1500W ale s tim se pocita😉 kdey mas velkej komp musis mit na elektriku🙂 tak jako kdo ma Lambo musi mit na service a gumy a zimaky na to stojej 250.000🙂) kolega v praci rikal ze to tak stalo🙂) mozna byly se spikama, ale to je jedno😉 v mojem pripade je to muj konicek, ma radost a tak jsem si ji udelal, ikdyz to bylo drahe... ale ve vysledku se ten komp stejne za par let zaplati... sice to ma delsi ROI, ale s tim jsem pocital😉
Klavne tady co jsou souvcastky tak malo co jde nad 8nm, coz je super na spotrebu... a kdyz to bezi 24/7, je treba mrknout i na toto... a starej server no to bude aspon 16nm takze 2x tolik energie za ttu samou muziku...